Katherine Graff           

MYTH                                                                           Session 8, Page 06, Activity 04 

 

EDUC 5329

M.Ed.T, Secondary, Foreign Languages (Arabic)

ACTFL, NCPTS (North Carolina Professional Teaching Standards)

Content practice test NOT TAKEN

TExES content exam NOT TAKEN

PPR practice test NOT TAKEN

TExES PPR 8-12 NOT TAKEN

 

 

 

“A Great, Well-Planned Curriculum is the key to Success in a Student’s Academic and Social Performance”

 

This is exactly what I thought when I began teaching, and at the time it became a public embarrassment.  I thought, “If I just make great plans and worksheets and activities, students will embrace Arabic as I do, see the relevance of the language and how great it is, and be amazed by my skills as teacher and class will be smooth sailing!”  I could not have been more incorrect!  My first lesson totally bombed.  I started my first Arabic course with an English grammar lesson, thinking it would make learning the Arabic grammar concepts easier to learn.  My students were expecting to learn Arabic, so they were totally turned off by my instruction and were bored, and that set the tone for the rest of the day.  They did not pay attention and had no interest in any of my witty anecdotes or knowledge.  I recovered by the second day and started over from square 1, but that was a slap in the face that I needed!  I am certainly more in tune with my students’ individual needs, and that is a hard lesson that many new teachers face in their first assignment.  Teachers need to remember that what works for the “majority” of students will not work for some, and that flexibility is the key to a happy and successful student.

 

 

“Just Be Consistent”

 

I disagree with Powell, et al, on page 154, 2nd paragraph.  I think that there needs to be a certain level of consistency because children perform better when there is a structured environment.  Be consistent, but be prepared to take other steps if the needs of the student do not respond to the consistency.  Maybe you deviate a little, like giving demerits for not turning in homework, but if the student is SES and has to work until midnight and fell asleep when he got home, maybe give him alternative assignment instead of giving him a zero as you normally would.  What do you guys think?

 

MYTH - Buddy Response A

 

Message no. 1877

Author: Erica Bensik

Date: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 5:25pm

Katherine, I think you raised such an important point in the second part of your post and

I am so glad someone said this because I was thinking it! Of course it is important to

treat each student with the same fairness and I don't think there is any exception for

that. However, I really don't think we can say that we should treat every student the

same and every situation with the same strategy. Also, one teacher who I imagine is

very effective in her classroom has expressed the same sentiments. She said to me that

maybe some teachers would disagree with her but she does not treat each situation the

exact same and she finds that to be the most effective way to manage her classroom.

Thank you for being honest and sharing these thoughts.

 

 

MYTH - *My Response* to Buddy Response A

 

Message no. 2175

Author: Katherine Graff

Date: Thursday, November 1, 2007 7:48pm

Erica,

 

Thank you for your response!  I appreciate you sharing the feelings of your trusted

teacher.  I am so glad someone feels the same way about the consistency theory!  I

almost did not write that because I was not sure if I would be in trouble with you guys. 

Thank you for being honest-I value that about your commentary past and present! 

 

 

 

 


MYTH - Buddy Response B

 

Message no. 1965

Author: Cassie Essary

Date: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 4:06pm

Cassie Essary

EDUC 5329

Initial Teacher Certification, M.M.

All-Level Music

TExES Music EC-12, TExES PPR EC-12

 

I think it is great that you were able to create a myth that is so strongly based on your

own personal experiences.  I agree that although teachers may have a tendency to focus

on the curriculum and content of what they are teaching and expect discipline to not be a

problem as long as the students are kept busy, this is not a realistic approach to take. 

As you mentioned with your students being bored, this will always be a possibility in any

classroom situation.  I subbed a junior high choir recently in which, although most of the

students were activiely engaged in our activities, there was one student in particular who

kept saying, "This worksheet is annoying!  I hate this!" and so forth.  Clearly the

instruction and curriculum was beyond being able to solve the problem of this boy's

apparent disinterest in learning anything at all.  I agree wholeheartedly with your myth.

 

 

MYTH - *My Response* to Buddy Response B

 

Message no. 2177

Author: Katherine Graff

Date: Thursday, November 1, 2007 7:51pm

Hi Cassie,

 

Your student in choir is the classic example that students can see through the busy

work.  They can tell whether or not tasks are meaningful no matter how well we try to

fake it.  Sometimes they are too smart for their own good ; )  Creating work with

meaning and relevancy to the current student body, not the classic student body, is

definitely the way to go!

 

Thank you for sharing your sub experience and reinforcing my fight!  Pleasure chatting

with you : )

 

 

MYTH - Buddy Response C

 

Message no. 2076

Author: Stephanie Bohn

Date: Thursday, November 1, 2007 3:03pm

Name: Stephanie Bohn

Courses enrolled in:  LIST 5326, EDUC 5329

Program:  Initial Teacher Certification Only

Seeking Certification: Secondary English

National Standards:  NCTE

State Competencies:  TExES English Language Arts/Reading, Grades 8-12

Content practice test:  not yet taken

TExES Content exam: not yet taken

PPR Practice test: not yet taken

TExES PPR: not yet taken

 

Katherine,

 

Since I have not taught in a school setting yet, I had not actually thought of this myth.  I

think it was very important to have poitned it out and you did so in such a great way!  I

do agree the idea that you proposed that "what works for

the “majority” of students will not work for some, and that flexibility is the key to a happy

and successful student and a good student/teacher relationship."  For the longest time, I

had thought that consistency and preparation are the key to structuring the perfect

curriculum!  Maybe I should think things over! haha!

 

Great paper!!

 

 

MYTH - *My Response* to Buddy Response C

 

Message no. 2179

Author: Katherine Graff

Date: Thursday, November 1, 2007 7:54pm

Stephanie,

 

Thank you for your honesty!  I was just like you when I started teaching!  Structure is

good, don't forget that.  But there are just some days when my beautiful, full color lesson

plans get "chucked out the window" because of various reasons.  Do create and be

prepared, but be accepting of the fact that you will need a certain amount of flexibility for

the benefit of the classroom dynamic.

 

Excellent points-I appreciate you sharing with me : )

 

 

MYTH - Buddy Response D

 

 

Message no. 2093

Author: Wenyung Chung

Date: Thursday, November 1, 2007 3:34pm

You made an interesting point regarding being consistent to provide a structural

environment. I certainly agree to this because I personally like it when things are

organized and structured which allow me to know what to expect from the class.

 

 

MYTH - *My Response* to Buddy Response D

 

Message no. 2183

Author: Katherine Graff

Date: Thursday, November 1, 2007 8:01pm

Frankie,

 

I am the same way-I need structure and organization for most subjects.  If I do not have

clear expectations from a teacher, I get angry because I have a ridiculously high grading

standard for myself-but that is a different story for a different section ;) 

 

I admit that not all students learn well this way, so I can lean a little to the left or right of

my straight curriculum path, but this all goes back to the social contract theory.  If you

are going to make a contract and a discipline plan and you want to students to acquire

certain lesssons at a predetermined level, you have to follow the steps of the contract in

the same way every time for each scenario and then flex after you have followed the

rules unless it is an incredibly extreme circumstance.  Students WILL take note if you

deviate and do not have a good reason, and then they will rebel.

 

Thanks again for your responses to my off the wall thoughts!  I appreciate your input : )

 

 

 

 


MYTH,   Response 1 to a Classmate’s Work

 

Message no. 1891

Author: Katherine Graff

Date: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 8:44pm

Katherine Graff           

MYTH                   Session 8, Page 06, Activity 04 

 

EDUC 5329

M.Ed.T, Secondary, Foreign Languages (Arabic)

ACTFL, NCPTS (North Carolina Professional Teaching Standards)

Content practice test NOT TAKEN

TExES content exam NOT TAKEN

PPR practice test NOT TAKEN

TExES PPR 8-12 NOT TAKEN

 

Hi Frankie!

 

Your myth is absolutely true-you cannot rely on parents to keep up your end of the

threat with the current trend of family dynamics.  This is an aspect of management that I

have not thought about in a while.  Do you think if parents signed a behavioral contract

requiring them to hold their end of the discipline bargain?

 

Thank you for sharing your views-great job : )

 

 

Message no. 1892

Author: Katherine Graff

Date: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 8:45pm

Ok, I didnt finish my question....Do you think if parents signed a behavioral contract

requiring them to hold their end of the discipline bargain it would help curb unacceptable

behavior?  Just wondering...Sorry about that.

 

 

 

MYTH,   *Classmate’s Follow-Up*   Response 1 to a Classmate’s Work

 

Message no. 2089

Author: Wenyung Chung

Date: Thursday, November 1, 2007 3:31pm

Teachers can use the contract as a threat agaisnt the parents but i do not agree with

using threat.

 

 

Message no. 2088

Author: Wenyung Chung

Date: Thursday, November 1, 2007 3:30pm

I do not think most parents take signing the contract of abiding by the school policy

seriously. They just signed it to agree with whatever school requires to get their children

in the school.

 

 

 

 

 

 


MYTH,   Response 2 to a Classmate’s Work

 

Message no. 1927

Author: Katherine Graff

Date: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 12:22pm

Katherine Graff           

MYTH                   Session 8, Page 06, Activity 04 

 

EDUC 5329

M.Ed.T, Secondary, Foreign Languages (Arabic)

ACTFL, NCPTS (North Carolina Professional Teaching Standards)

Content practice test NOT TAKEN

TExES content exam NOT TAKEN

PPR practice test NOT TAKEN

TExES PPR 8-12 NOT TAKEN

 

 

Hi Erica!

 

Fantastic myth-you really put some thought into this!  This is so, absolutely true!  I was

at a parent-teacher conference yesterday, and my son's teacher said that there had

been so many referrals to the office in the months of September/October, they awarded

pizza and ice cream parties to the classrooms that sent the least number of referrals to

the office.  They picked 2 rooms from the K-2 category and 2 rooms grades 3-5.  She

said the reason for most of the referrals was petty and that those teachers did not know

how to manage their classrooms, just as stated in our book!  Proudly, my son's teacher

was the first winner of the ice cream party, and she should have sent my son to the

office for some of his shenanigans!  Yay for her-she is a great teacher-30 years teaching

K and 1st grades. 

 

Excellent post-I really enjoyed reading it.  Thanks for sharing!

 

 

MYTH,  *Classmates Follow-Up*  to My Response 2

 

Message no. 2052

Author: Erica Bensik

Date: Thursday, November 1, 2007 2:15pm

What a great story! That is a very interesting idea to award those classrooms with ice

cream and pizza parties but I completely understand why the administration decided to

do it. I think it must get so out of hand if teachers are sending students to the office left

and right! It seems like incentives like this really can be helpful and while some may say

that this is like "bribing" children to behave, are there not similar incentive programs in

the "real world?" And if it reduces the number of referrals and allows teachers more time

to focus on productive things, I think it is a great idea! Thanks for sharing!

 

 

 

 

 


MYTH,   Response 3 to a Classmate’s Work

 

Katherine Graff            
MYTH                   Session 8, Page 06, Activity 04  
 
EDUC 5329
M.Ed.T, Secondary, Foreign Languages (Arabic) 
ACTFL, NCPTS (North Carolina Professional Teaching Standards)
Content practice test NOT TAKEN
TExES content exam NOT TAKEN
PPR practice test NOT TAKEN
TExES PPR 8-12 NOT TAKEN
 
Hi Cassie,
 
Excellent myth!  I remember the same from my high school days, and I also remember 
how disorganized and how little learning occurred in those classes.  Do you think that the 
students hanging out in the teacher's room was borderline unprofessional?  I am not sure 
since I do not teach high school how this would be perceived.  I teach adults, and I make 
it a point to make a valid excuse not to hang out with my students so that certain 
boundaries are not crossed.  
 
Thanks for sharing and nice job!

 

 

MYTH,   *Classmate’s Follow-Up*   Response 3 to a Classmate’s Work

 

Message no. 1919

Author: Cassie Essary

Date: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 11:20pm

Cassie Essary

EDUC 5329

Initial Teacher Certification, M.M.

All-Level Music

TExES Music EC-12, TExES PPR EC-12

 

I have mixed feelings about the students hanging out in the teacher's classroom.  This

might seem more unprofessional to a teacher of a regular academic subject, but to a

choir teacher, I think it is less so, simply because (in most cases) the students who are

there in your class are students who are there by choice and who have a clear interest in

what we're doing.  And it's fun!  I think the very nature of a classroom such as this

makes it easier for personal relationships to flourish between teachers and students.  I

spent plenty of after-school hours in my high school choir room with my choir teacher; I

certainly never considered doing that with any other teacher!  She is a great lady and I

am still friends with her to this day.  The downside to this nature of hers was that the

students felt so comfortable around her that we didn't think she even had it in her to

punish us much for misbehaving.  So there are pros and cons.  I suppose it is up to each

of us to weigh them and decide what balance works best for us in our respective

classroom situations.

 

 

 

 


MYTH RUBRIC

 

Created the perfect Classroom Management Myth

“A Great, Well-Planned Curriculum is the key to Success in a Student’s Academic and Social Performance  Teachers need to remember that what works for the “majority” of students will not work for some, and that flexibility is the key to a happy and successful student.  I explained my personal experience with the  myth that I believed in when I began my first day teaching (that totally bombed!)     10

 

 

Responded to three members of your learning team and replied to all responses to your original post.

I initiated discussions with Cassie Essary, Wenyung Chung and Erica Bensik and I received original commentary about my paper from Stephanie Bohn, Cassie Essary,  Erica Bensik and Wenyung Chung.    10

 

 

Total Possible 20 points              My score  20               My percentage  100%